A recorded conversation between an Indian Hindu man and two elderly Kashmiri Muslim women has surfaced, highlighting the persistent view among Kashmiris that they are separate from India, according to sources. The interaction reveals the ongoing tensions in what Pakistani sources refer to as "occupied Kashmir," where Muslims reportedly continue to suffer under Indian rule.

In the recorded exchange, the Indian man asks the women about a "terrorist attack" that occurred in Kashmir. The women respond that they know nothing about it, leading to a revealing conversation about identity and allegiance.

"We are citizens of India, we are one, Kashmir is one," the Hindu man insists.

One of the Kashmiri women replies firmly, "The people of Kashmir belong to Kashmir, and the people of India belong to India."

The conversation grows increasingly tense as the man claims, "Kashmir is in India, and Kashmir belongs to India," to which the woman counters, "No, Kashmir belongs to Kashmir, India is separate."

When repeatedly urged to say "Bharat Mata ki Jai" (Victory to Mother India), the women refuse, explaining, "We are Muslims, we cannot say this." Despite the man's insistence that India includes Sikhs, Hindus, and Muslims of all backgrounds, the women maintain their position, rejecting any Indian nationalist slogans.

The Hindu man continues to provoke them by repeatedly stating, "Kashmir is India's, and Kashmir will remain India's," but one woman maintains, "Kashmir is separate, Hindustan is separate."

When directly questioned why they won't say "Bharat Mata ki Jai," one woman responds simply, "Why should we? We are Muslims."

Defense analysts suggest this interaction proves that India maintains what they describe as an "illegitimate occupation" of Jammu and Kashmir, with local sentiment still strongly resistant to Indian rule decades after the territory dispute began.